A bunch of useless crap
Published on February 12, 2008 By MasonM In Misc
A couple of the current presidential candidates are making a lot of noise about so-called universal health coverage. I have heard many people mistakenly refer to this as universal health care. They are not the same thing.

Universal health coverage simply means that the government, using tax dollars, will be paying for health insurance for citizens and possibly non-citizens as well. Ok, that may sound really nice to some people but what does it really mean? Health insurance may be nice to have but it can hardly be equated to health care. In many cases the insurance company will dictate what health care you may or may not receive instead of your doctor making that decision. They hold the purse strings and they decide if they want to pay for your treatment or not.

Then there are the deductibles and co-payments that go along with health insurance. Does a person who is so poor that they can't afford health insurance to begin with actually benefit here? What about someone who is unemployed? Can they afford these out of pocket expenses? Probably not, so even with government funded insurance they will probably still not seek out health care because they can't afford these expenses. Big help huh?

Who really stands to benefit from such a program? Well, the politicians stand to benefit because they can point to this tax dollar funded program and say they are doing something for the people. The insurance companies really stand to benefit as they will rake in billions of additional dollars, tax dollars, from such a program. I'm sure they are behind such a program 100% as it will line their pockets for decades to come.

While this may be a nice sounding, feel good program in the end it will really only benefit a small portion of the population who stand to save some money on health insurance they probably already have and who can afford the out of pocket expenses that go along with it. And it will benefit the already wealthy insurance companies by ensuring huge profits for years to come, at the expense of the taxpayers of course.

Yes, a lack of affordable health care is a problem in this country, but those who support a program such as this need to set aside the feel good emotional view for a moment and take a little time to realistically examine the true effects and implications of such a program. It may sound good on the surface but in reality it's a huge boondoggle that will only serve to line the pockets of the insurance companies without being much help to those who really need it the most.


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on Feb 12, 2008
Well said. Coverage does not equal care. Our country already provides emergency health care to anyone in need even if they are poor, illegally here, etc. Many of the countries that some keep saying we need to be more like, don't do that. Also, I personally know people from countries that have Universal Health Coverage and they still have to pay big bucks to get decent CARE.
on Feb 12, 2008
Universal health coverage simply means that the government, using tax dollars, will be paying for health insurance for citizens and possibly non-citizens as well.


Do they really say that the government will pay for it? I just assumed that they would mandate us paying for our own insurance, while keeping the same assistance in place for the extremely poor.
on Feb 12, 2008

Yes, it is more of an insurance subsidy plan than anything else.  The government would require insurers to cover EVERYONE regardless of their medical history.  This would help all of those people with "pre-existing conditions" that can't get covered for that reason.  The plan would also allow individuals to purchase a government insurance plan if they do not have workplace coverage.  Clinton's plan will limit insurance cost to a percentage of household income and has subsidies to keep the cost down.  There are also subsidies for small businesses that offer medical insurance to their employees. 

Romney put a system in place in Massachusetts that mandated health insurance coverage similiar to auto insurance.  People earning less than poverty level got subsidized policies with a small co-pay for E.R. visits.  People who make up to 3x poverty level purchase insurance that is subsidized based on their income.  He said they did not pay anymore to cover low income people than they were already spending for their previously.

 

on Feb 12, 2008

Universal health coverage simply means that the government, using tax dollars, will be paying for health insurance for citizens and possibly non-citizens as well.


Do they really say that the government will pay for it? I just assumed that they would mandate us paying for our own insurance, while keeping the same assistance in place for the extremely poor.


Federal funding is the only way they could possibly pull it off. You can't force the unemployed to buy insurance or even those who work for minimum wage unless it's made very, very cheap which would suggest Federal subsidies to the insurance companies to make it work. Any way you slice it tax dollars would have to be used at some point to make this idea fly.
on Feb 12, 2008
You can't force the unemployed to buy insurance or even those who work for minimum wage


Tell that to Massachusettes...
on Feb 12, 2008

You can't force the unemployed to buy insurance or even those who work for minimum wage


Tell that to Massachusettes...


Mass. pays subsidies...tax dollars. Same thing but on a national scale, it would mean hundreds of billions of dollars to the insurance companies.
on Feb 12, 2008
What it means is that somehow 32 cents of my dollars earned isn't quite enough.  The state and federal government wants more!
on Feb 12, 2008

What it means is that somehow 32 cents of my dollars earned isn't quite enough.  The state and federal government wants more!


Yep and we all know how responsible they are with our money.
on Feb 12, 2008

Many people may mistake coverage for care.  And others know that the government is just trying to get its foot in the door before nationalizing 17% of the US Economy.

It really does not matter what it is called.  The end result will be the same. More money controlled by irresponsible people all in the name of "fair".  And less control over your life.

on Feb 12, 2008
It really does not matter what it is called. The end result will be the same. More money controlled by irresponsible people all in the name of "fair". And less control over your life.


And nobody actually better off than they were before.
on Feb 12, 2008
It means the same government that runs the VA hospitals and Immigration Services will decide what is "fair" medical coverage.
on Feb 12, 2008

It means the same government that runs the VA hospitals and Immigration Services will decide what is "fair" medical coverage.


So that's a good thing. Right?