There just isn't anything that AI will accept. Nerf Darts and puffy sex handcuffs would be too harsh for these ninnies. The problem is that this group really won't accept anything that stands in the way of utter anarchy. The protests are simply stalking horses for that agenda and nothing more.

Yeah they do seem to take ideas to a silly extreme.

I just assume they consented to be tasered by resisting arrest.

Yep.

The truth is that the moment you get into a confrontation, fight, or resist the police you are already on the losing end. Even if you believe yourself to be in the right you break the law the moment you resist an officer and that officer is well within his/her rights to do what is necessary to subdue you within the confines of the law.

One thing these idiots keep harping on is the fact that these are unarmed people being tasered. Well, no shit! If they were armed they'd be shot instead.

How many tasered people wish they'd been beated with a club instead? Also, the safety of the officer is a concern - they can taser someone with less risk to them than tackling, or other means of controlling suspects. Basically, if someone should be in control of an officer but is not cooperating, the officer has to bring them into control - and that need will remain no matter what tools they have to fulfill that duty.

Which is exactly what you just said.

Tasers are used all over as a torture device because they don’t leave any permanent marks so the torturers can deny they did any torturing. The fact that they don’t leave any permanent marks has allowed their use to be abused by cops. They can now effectively beat the crap out of anyone they choose with impunity. People are getting tasered for just being agitated with a cop and insulting them. Some cops have admitted an emotional rush when tasering suspects and even leaving the probes in and zapping them several more times while handcuffed in the back seat of the squad car. That is torture.

Just pointing out this action is because of the tasers abuse and not the proper sanctioned use of the device by law enforcement. I still feel the taser is too useful to ban its use in law enforcement but something has to be done about its abuse.

One thing these idiots keep harping on is the fact that these are unarmed people being tasered. Well, no shit! If they were armed they'd be shot instead.

Good point Mason. My belief on tasers is that they have in fact been over used by police. I do not believe that they should be used as an all-purpose method to subdue anyone being un-cooperative. I believe that tasers do have their place in law enforcement and that officers should be equipped with them, HOWEVER a taser should only be used in a situation where the only other recourse for the officer would be to use their sidearm. One fact that is rarely mentioned in the media at large is that 99% of conflict scenarios can be succesfully defused if the authority figure keeps a cool head and treats the beligerent like a human being (as opposed to a slimeball who's gonna get what's coming to him) As the old saying goes it takes two to tango and quite often if the perpetrator sees that the officer isn't getting all worked up it acts as a kind of sobering mechanism that shows him how ridiculous his acting out really is.

The vast majority of the time if the officer has the time, patience and understanding to deal with a troublemaker properly there will be no issue in the first place. However this is very hard to do and if the officer is having a bad day and has already dealt with a bunch of crap, chances are they're not going to put up with some crazy dude making a scene. Like I said, 99% of the time it is not needed. It's the 1 % of the time that there will be a beligerent who's looking for trouble regardless of the circumstances, and being able to discern that difference is where the police would probably benefit from a little more training?

Apparently anything less comfortable than cookies and milk is torture for them.

If you ask me, their constant whining is the torture.

Hint to the dense... when a cop says "stop"... stop!

I say we up the tazer to about 1,000,000,000 volts, pushed at around 45 amps. ztttttttttt instant dust, no complaints.

Even if you believe yourself to be in the right you break the law the moment you resist an officer and that officer is well within his/her rights to do what is necessary to subdue you within the confines of the law.

Friends over TiVoCommunity.com (in the Happy Hour area) had a very lively discussion about a recently released video on YouTube, and news about same, where a guy was Tasered by a cop after a traffic stop.  The guy in that particular incident wasn't the brightest bulb, but the cop was far from handling the case in the best manner himself.

Personally, if someone is going to be using a taser, they need to use it as an almost last resort.  That doesn't mean they should apply a beat down on a suspect or someone that not cooperating with them, but it does mean that the law enforcement officer needs to remember to provide warnings to the individual and offer an opportunity to avoid the drastic measures that they could face if they don't cooperate.

Apparently anything less comfortable than cookies and milk is torture for them.

Why don’t you go down to the police station and let them hit you with one and then you can report back on how close the experience was to milk and cookies

Friends over TiVoCommunity.com (in the Happy Hour area) had a very lively discussion about a recently released video on YouTube, and news about same, where a guy was Tasered by a cop after a traffic stop. The guy in that particular incident wasn't the brightest bulb, but the cop was far from handling the case in the best manner himself.

There use must be limited, and those limitations clearly spelled out for the cops. Most of what a cop does all day is mediate disputes that get out of hand. Some 85% of calls to police fall into that category. Most involve alcohol and need not require arrest or a beat down. Cop’s tasering first because it’s easier than attempting to mediate the situation or using the taser to abuse a prisoner after he has been secured is what you and I should have a problem with. If you’re someone whose resisting arrest after your warned, you got a beat down coming to you, and be thankful they didn’t have to shoot you.

I didn't say it would be cookies and milk, I accused Amnasty International and the Useless UN of whining anytime anyone is treated with less comfort.

I think a shock is still preferable to a bullet. But then again those worthless waste organizations don't want bullets either. They are merely criminal organizations who are defending their own.

And here I was thinking tasers were a good thing.  Better than a bullet, right?  Apparently I was misguided. 

 

*sigh* Are people really this fucking stupid?  I half expect some jackass to hop out and say they're on Candid Camera or are being Punk'd or something.

~Zoo

Yep

I agree, and said as much. The idea that somehow these devices should be banned is altogether an extreme end of the realm of what one could consider rational thought though.

No matter what tools are given to those in authority, there will always be a small number who will abuse them. I saw the video about the traffic stop and agree that cop was out of line in that situation, but the vast majority of cases where a taser has been used, at leasts the ones I've seen on video, I feel the cops were justified.