A bunch of useless crap
Published on September 12, 2007 By MasonM In Politics
I am so used to our elected "representatives" screwing us over that I am actually surprised when they do something that is actually in our best interest. The Senate did such a thing today when they voted 74 to 24 to cut off the funding for the Mexican truck pilot program.

For those who are not aware, this Bush pilot program was to last for a year and would allow Mexican trucking companies full access to operate within the United States. They would be allowed to haul freight to any point in the US and haul freight back into Mexico in much the same way Canadian companies do now.

So what's wrong with this program? Lots.

Firstly, the reason for big companies to want this situation is that they can ship their freight at a fraction of the cost they do now. Mexican truckers are paid less than half of American truckers and the Mexican companies will haul the freight for half of what an American company will haul it. Under the current system an American trucker will haul the Mexican freight to the border where a Mexican trucker will pick it up and haul it on into Mexico. We've been doing it that way for years and it works just fine.

Secondly, under this pilot program the Mexican truckers would be issued a one year visa. My (and many other's) question is why? Canadian drivers aren't given a visa. The answer of course is obvious. They intend for this to be a "guest worker" program in order to undercut the American trucking industry. It would result in drastically reduced freight rates and lower wages for truckers (which hasn't increased since 1980 as it is). It's a completely underhanded way to destroy the American trucking industry as it exists today.

Mexican truck drivers are not trained to anything even close to the standards of American truck drivers. They aren't drug tested at all, and in fact there isn't a single driver drug testing facility in the entire country of Mexico.

Mexican truckers are not subjected to any sort of background check or medical physical in the way American truckers are. There would be no way of knowing who these people are, what communicable diseases they carry (can you say TB?), or what sort of criminals they might be. American truckers are subjected to very close scrutiny and everything they do is recorded in a national database. Not so the Mexican trucker.

There is also absolutely no way for American DOT officers to verify how many hours or days that Mexican driver has been driving before he crossed the border. This creates a extremely dangerous safety risk on our highways.

The vast majority of Mexican trucks are the old, worn out trucks they have purchased from American fleets when they become too old and unsafe to operate in the US. These are the trucks they want to allow to come back in to run our roads. I have literally seen Mexican trucks down around the border towns with their bumpers held on with bungee cords and the mirrors held on with duct tape. That's no joke, and there is no possible way they could hope to inspect every single Mexican truck that crosses the border to ensure they are safe to operate.

They basically want to allow truckers into this country that don't even come close to meeting our training and safety standards and somehow that's going to be ok. The American trucking industry has very loudly and firmly said "Hell no!" and the Senate has actually listened for a change.

We have been fighting against opening the border to Mexican trucks for quite some time now and it looks like we finally have some hope of winning this one. The Senate and the House are reasonably certain they have the votes to override the President's promised veto on this amended transportation budget and I certainly hope it's true. If Mexican trucks start running across the US you can be damn sure the highway accident rates are going to skyrocket and a lot of American truckers will be put out of business for good.




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on Sep 25, 2007
TRUCKING is no way for any American to make a living...The industry averages 128% turnover per year... Thats worse than Burger King...Companies in this country are no safer than the mexican trucking companies, go to the safer web site ,and check it out...Most of the major companies (companies with 300 or more trucks) have safety stat scores of above 75 which is bad... 100 is as bad as they can get ...25 is great...They don't monitor dispatchers in this country ,like they do in europe....And with fuel having risen, these ignorant companies have gotten worse, instead of reducing their spending ...They reduce their drivers wages...Since I started driving in the late 70's, I have watched it fall apart, I have seen the greed, as well as the uneducated employers...I got out of trucking in 2006 after almost 25yrs clean MVR and 0 accidents...This job devalued to the point it was no longer worth doing...It pays less than minimum wage if your over the road...I like to refer to it as share cropping cuz thats what it has become,it falls under no labor act, it has no labor law's...It has no justice, nothing but liers, and thiefs... So the mexicans will fit right in...
on Sep 25, 2007
Interesting point Mike, for an outsider like myself to understand, perhaps you should expand on your acronyms. We use a lot in the military and when you first use it in writing, you generally use the entire term followed by the acronym in parens.
eg: United States Marine Corps (USMC).

In other words who is USIS DAC, OOIDA, and such? If I knew, your points would probably make a lot more sense.
on Sep 25, 2007
Hmm, since I don't know any truck drivers who make less than $60,000/year... I'm having a hard time feeling the pain from the income standpoint.

The fact it's a stressful job, full of unnecessary regulations, uncomfortable working conditions and the fact that they have to share the road with all the idiots on the road.. now that I can muster up some empaty for.

The fact that our own government is waving most of the requirements for Mexican drivers, while insisting the regulations are someone "important" anyway, makes me stand 100% behind the drivers on this one!
on Sep 25, 2007
Mike, I understand how you feel as most of us also feel the angst of the current trucking industry economy, but you seem to be a bit confused here. Fighting the influx of Mexican trucks is in no way supporting the big trucking companies but is in fact quite the opposite. They are the ones who stand to gain the most by allowing these trucks into our country.

Who do you think will be opening terminals in Mexico if this is allowed to continue? The small operators (one of which I work for) or the huge trucking corporations? The big companies will do so to get even cheaper labor and higher profits. You're actually arguing on the side of the very people you claim to despise which tells me you haven't really looked into this issue very closely.

Also, you claim the Mexican trucks are no worse than our own, which tells me again that you don't quite know what you're talking about. The vast majority of Mexican over the road equipment is the old, worn out trucks these same huge trucking companies sold to them when they couldn't safely or cheaply maintain them any longer. I've had first hand experiences with Mexican trucks and Mexican drivers and I can tell you without a doubt that neither are safe to operate on our roadways.

I do agree with you regarding the pay system in our trucking industry. It's an antiquated system that should have been scrapped years ago. It's paid by the mile, basically piece work, and only serves to encourage drivers to break the rules in order to make a living.

This is exactly why I do not work under that pay system but instead work for a percentage of the load. And we don't haul cheap freight.

The trucking industry turn over rate is basically churn. It's drivers hopping from company to company for a few extra cents per mile only to find that they're still making about the same money. The whole pay system needs to be scrapped and drivers should either be paid by the mile with a guaranteed daily earning, paid by the hour, or paid salary. This piecework crap does need to go away as it falls far short as it fails to pay a driver for time spent sitting in traffic, sitting at a shipper or receiver, or sitting and waiting for a dispatch. It's what amounts to slave labor in many respects and should be halted.

OOIDA has been saying these same things regarding pay for years.

Interesting point Mike, for an outsider like myself to understand, perhaps you should expand on your acronyms. We use a lot in the military and when you first use it in writing, you generally use the entire term followed by the acronym in parens.
eg: United States Marine Corps (USMC).

In other words who is USIS DAC, OOIDA, and such? If I knew, your points would probably make a lot more sense.


USIS and DAC are the new and old names for the same thing. It's a driver information database. Both employers and the DOT can and do report information to it including violations and work history information. It's notorious for having incorrect information, often placed there by a company trying to create problems for a driver who has quit. It's very difficult to get information corrected.

OOIDA is the Owner Operators Independent Drivers Association, of which I have long been a member. It's a trucker's advocacy group. It's pretty much the only trucker's advocacy group as the ATA (American Trucking Association) represents the companies and not the drivers and they are quite often in opposition to what we drivers are wanting. OOIDA and the ATA butt heads quite often.



on Sep 25, 2007
Hmm, since I don't know any truck drivers who make less than $60,000/year... I'm having a hard time feeling the pain from the income standpoint.

The fact it's a stressful job, full of unnecessary regulations, uncomfortable working conditions and the fact that they have to share the road with all the idiots on the road.. now that I can muster up some empaty for.

The fact that our own government is waving most of the requirements for Mexican drivers, while insisting the regulations are someone "important" anyway, makes me stand 100% behind the drivers on this one!


Well, not all drivers make $60K to be honest. A good many barely scratch out $30-35K. Most of those work for the same huge trucking companies mentioned above.

The fact that our DOT has absolutely no way of verifying that Mexican driver's hours of service prior to crossing the border is a huge problem and a major safety concern. But in all honesty what most of us are truly concerned about is that they want to give these drivers a one year visa. Why? The answer should be obvious. It's all in the interest of huge corporations gaining access to cheaper labor and supplanting American jobs with foreign labor.
on Sep 26, 2007
MasonM, I respect your opinion....However Swift,and several other large trucking companies Warner, already own Mexican trucking companies...As far as working for a percentage goes,you better make sure they are not double brokering your loads, or taking a couple hundred off and than giving you a percentage...By the mile or percentage is still not enough, I've never understood the term (back haul) A load is a load and it costs me the same...If my out going freight pays me $1.70per mile and I get 73% thats a decent load but if I have to haul at $1.28per mile and only get 73% thats not a good load...The biggest problem with owner operators leased to companies is that companies want to much of the pie...Right now fuel is high so to combat that, companies are paying less, and taking more...Another words if an owner operator makes $600 on a load the company wants to make $600 on the load...Small trucking companies (outside of owner operators with their own authority) cannot compete...MY perspective on trucking companies is, they all spend way to much money...We are in a service industry, that really does not require owners running around in leer jets, or buying million dollar facilities, or having 10 dispatchers for a hundred trucks or having 5 vice presidents,and 2 general managers,and 4 people in safety...If you use a medafore, like food service they also are in the service industry, some people will eat at the ritz, most shippers would just as well eat at McDonalds in this industry, they want it as cheap as they can get it, and somewhat reliable...So companies to combat their over spending put it back on their drivers by paying them less, right now the average wage for a driver with 10yrs is .34ct per mile which is less, than what it was 5yrs ago, and because of competition most drivers are only averageing about 2,300 to 2,500 miles a week take out living expence and other expences and your left with nothing $500 bucks for 7 days work, and your still not home...Lets talk about owner ops the average is .91ct per mile + fuel surcharge which this week is about .24ct per mile that comes out to $1.15 per mile the mexicans can work for that... MasonM you and I can't...As far as turnover rates go...Most people leave companies due to inconsistant work... Nobody is going to spend 7days out only working 4...Nobody is going to run illegal, and what other industry would ask a person to do illegal activity, lie on your log books, run over weight,run with an air leak....As truck drivers we do not fall under the fair labor standards act of 1938, their is no OSHA...And the FMCSA is a joke,they do very little to make these companies responsibile for their actions...Oh and one other point if companies buy mexican trucking companies they will be making less than they do now freight rates will be less, a lot less, they won't be making near the money they are making now thats why they are crying about them coming over..
on Sep 26, 2007
MasonM, Them coming over has very little to do with safety go to safety stat .com and look at the saftey stat scores for U.S companies there are over 3 million trucking companies in the U.S (That stat is also on safer) to many of them, live to high on the hog, and treat people poorly, and the same ones crying about the safety of mexican trucks have poor safety records themselves...They are worried about profit and how they will have to say bye bye to their leer jet...Mexican trucking companies can operate cheaper, fuel is roughly .50ct per mile pay a driver .15 ct per mile they make money at $1.25 per mile...There is no U.S company that can operate that cheap...SAFETY is not the reason that U.S trucking companies don't want them over here...Owner operators that run on their own authority will also do well, and the prime reason, no leer jet ,no fancy building,no big titles...
on Sep 26, 2007
MasonM, Canadian trucks have all but stopped running the U.S, They run close to the border and ya no why? Because their dollar is worth the same as ours, When they were running here they made money... But they can't anymore, it costs them more to run over here, with insurance, and we have to many toll roads, and our fuel is no longer cheaper...Thanks to Reagan,and Carter ,we have morons running this industry...And all these lobby groups like the ATA,OOIDA, they are a joke ooida has an office in Grain Valley. MO,near Kansas City, they have enough truck parking for 5 trucks...Thats looking out for the truck driver is'nt it? Don't be so eager to defend the U.S companies opposed to Mexican trucks coming over belive me it has nothing to do with safety...Most the U.S companies are not quote SAFE...
on Sep 26, 2007
Sure, granted, we've got problems galore in the trucking industry in this country....but why add "x" amount of grief to them by allowing undocumented, no-one-knows-who Mexicans and their vehicles with no-one-knows-what loads open access to our roads?


Allowing Mexican trucking open access in our country is a small part of the North American Union vision that Pres. Bush has going with Mexico and Canada.

You guys are living with the negative consequences.
on Sep 26, 2007
Mike, you still seem to miss the fact that I am in now way defending trucking companies, but rather the truck driver. You really need to do some research.
on Sep 26, 2007
You guys are living with the negative consequences.


Yes, and the negative consequences make a difference between whether or not the average American trucker can pay his bills or not.
on Sep 27, 2007
ure, granted, we've got problems galore in the trucking industry in this country....but why add "x" amount of grief to them by allowing undocumented, no-one-knows-who Mexicans and their vehicles with no-one-knows-what loads open access to our roads?


Allowing Mexican trucking open access in our country is a small part of the North American Union vision that Pres. Bush has going with Mexico and Canada.
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The Mexican trucks will be checked out more than our trucks...We have trucks running here that are in worse shape than any mexican truck...Don't buy into the propaganda these trucking companies are trying to sell you...Everyone knows this is about greed...The government is on the verge of canceling it's funds to trucking schools that are operated by these huge companies,Swift,Warner,C.R England, Hogan, and several others,because of turnover rates, the government has banned their commericals on T.V in the last couple of months,commericals that speak about yearly income, and job responsibilty, they were deemed inacturate...There are tons of problems in this industry, "the job" Is the coal mining, or sharecropping of the 21st century...So let the Mexicans have it, because our governments answer for control is to do it though the drivers, and thats less than 20% of the problem...Mexicans you can treat anyway you want, they are not U.S citizens...As far as the union companies go,who cares what they stand for, they stood for deregulation which is causing alot of the problems that exist today in this industry...MEXICAN TRUCKS WILL REDUCE SHIPPING COST...Remember this protest is not about safety, I've already addressed that in my past blogs related to this....And remember all these U.S companies got into business after 1980, and deregulation they have been driving freight rates down, now with fuel being so high they can't do business they way they were in the late 80s and 90s,and with Clinton activateing NAFTA they have no choice...I knew this was coming, and I am glad, I was an owner operator for 10yrs and a company driver for 15yrs now I am a mechanic in the industry, and a advocate for U.S drivers getting out of this pathedic industry....It is devalued to the point it is not worth doing...Our shop rate is $90 an hour we just had a $5 increase...Truck drivers in this country have not had a increase in 20yrs...LET THE MEXICANS HAVE THE INDUSTRY...
on Sep 27, 2007
Ok Mike, we get it. You hate the trucking industry and believe the solution to all it's ills is for everyone to quit the industry. The simple fact is that many of us still enjoy making our living on the road, but then we aren't dumb enough to work for one of the big companies. There are still plenty of smaller companies that treat their drivers right and pay well.

Positive changes don't come from quitting, they come from working for those changes, which is what many of us are doing. Just because you threw in the towel doesn't mean an entire industry is going to follow suit.

on Sep 27, 2007
Positive changes don't come from quitting, they come from working for those changes, which is what many of us are doing.


Absolutely!

And giving open access to illegal Mexicans won't help in the long run either.
on Sep 28, 2007
For everyone whining that the trucking companies care about profits... don't you do your job for the profits? If it cost you to do you job, would you do it? Give me a break!
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