Looks like anytime is the perfect time to strip law abiding people of their firearms for average rank and file leftists. Before the horrific scene is even cleared, they are already pushing for stricter gun laws... as if the gun laws in New Jersey and Connecticut aren't strict enough. 

I just don't get how those people can completely ignore the horror of this incident and automatically focus on their agenda. Somehow it just doesn't seem like mentally healthy people to me.

I have 2 observations related to this.

 

#1 - Rahm Emmanuel was the one that said no good crises should go to waste.  Obama has never strayed from that mantra.

#2 - All of these massacres have one thing in common.  All were perpetrated in gun free zones.  In other words, the law abiding were defenseless.  The lawless knew it.

/sigh

Okay, so this might go over about as well as a nudist in a colony of zealous puritans, but I feel like I need to put in my two cents.

In my opinion, by claiming that what you see is solely a leftist thing, with nary a comment on similar...ill advised politicking and hay making by folks on the right and center...you in turn politicize it. Ironic, no?

The fact is those who would use this unbelievably horrendous event for gain are spread out across the spectrum. In fact, I would say this trait has less to do with ideology and more to do with the fact that some people, whether they be left, right, center, or part of the intergalactic mars party, are just flat out cold, heartless bastards.

/shrug - Not a good thing, but that's just life. Still, I don't think acting political by bashing political adversaries is really going to help. Kind of defeats your intent, right? I think in situations like this the best thing to do is to just ignore anyone who does. Do not give them the satisfaction of being acknowledged and instead simply focus on offering support, love, etc. to those affected by the shooting.

Cheers. ~L

I cannot seem to comprehend a human being doing something like this without trying to rationalize some kind of explanation. To think my neighbor or yours can do anything like this is what is really scary. Sorry if I need to add my 2 cents but there has to be more than being 'sick'. One thing I can wrap my head around is drugs, I seen this a while ago and would like some input, or not.

PSYCHIATRY’S PRESCRIPTION FOR VIOLENCE

Documenting the impact of a multibillion dollar psychiatric-pharmaceutical industry, this powerful and graphic video contains interviews with experts, parents and victims. Dramatic recordings of actual 911 calls made by desperate family members—and even by a killer himself—convey the chilling reality behind today’s headlines. Here is the shocking truth underlying the current wave of violence devastating our homes, schools and communities.
http://www.cchr.org/videos/psychiatrys-prescription-for-violence.html

Thank you myfist0, I knew the FDA was corrupt and from personal experience I had pretty well decided that the psychiatrists were ... wrong ... but I didn't know how corrupt the industry really was. I watched the whole video and am more disgusted than I thought possible ... where is my Zoloft. This is almost 2 hours long but well worth watching especially if you or your children are facing psychiatric mental manipulations.

Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (FULL VERSION)   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gvdBSSUviys#t=167s 

PS - Skip the first 2:45 unless you want to see what drugs are capable of.

 

 

Its not just Ram Emmanuel who practices this theory. Its Government in general. For instance, after the Oklahoma Federal Building was bombed by McVeigh, a huge legislation was crated but shelved due to the public not being quite ready to collectively bend over for it. That is until Sept 11th, when the unconstitutional Patriot act was passed in a atmosphere of public fear and shock. I don't think any new laws would have deterred Adam Lanza, the kid murdered his own mother to gain access to weapons, so I wonder what crime he wouldn't have been willing to commit or what law he wouldn't have broken.

Piers Morgan went on a Twitter rant that same day.  Tweeted at least a dozen things that we now "must" do to limit access to guns.

Not one of them would have prevented the Newtown tragedy.

Progressives are never 'done' with anything.  If they get a law that says you can't have a gun if you have an autistic child in the home, they'll want one that says you can't have one if you have a crazy third cousin twice removed or a felon anywhere in your family tree, living or dead.

Never mind that their version of Nirvana, the "gun-free zone", is by definition a 'target rich environment', where the innocents get killed.  Never mind that banning guns only assures that only bad guys/girls have them.  Sometimes, courtesy of our own Justice Department.

 

Disclaimer:  I've never owned a gun.  Never hunted with a gun, or bow & arrow for that matter.  Have no interest in owning a gun.  But I know many responsible gun owners.

One other thing that bothers me.  The expectation that our President has to weigh in or otherwise be involved in such local matters is ghoulish.  Sorry, but nothing any President says or does provides any solace or in any way helps me (or anyone, IMO) deal with a tragedy of this kind.  But the media immediately want to make anything like this that happens about (in this case) Obama.  It's really offputting that the media go there while the bodies are still warm.  There was at least a Federal Government connection in the case of the Giffords shooting, but BO turned that into a campaign event with all the accoutrements, which I found completely disgusting.

Reagan's Challenger comments are always brought up in defense of Presidents 'jumping in' but in that case he was the nominal employer of those killed and it was a pure 'tragedy' as opposed to a horrific premeditated crime with tragic results.

Agreed.

It was also the last time that a president did not look like a tool when eulogizing the fallen.

I agree with this idea but I think many would be just as outraged were he to stay silent. As in everything political, we have to be able to filter through the BS which is usually most of the content. I don't know how or why these tragedies should be withheld from the public, but there is no way to be critical in the beginning. This was not a gun problem ... it was a matter of insanity run amuck ... and our inability to protect the children occupying our public schools. What is the normal method of securing any other structure we build … we hire ‘armed guards’ and utilize electronic systems to good effect. It wouldn’t matter if the US was completely gun free … because guns are (violence is) the mainstay of criminals and guns will always be available. He could have done compliable damage with a hand full of sharpened pencils. Most schools around here have police stationed at the schools as an instant responder and to curb school violence … don’t remember hearing about any security at that school … and who could possibly respond from outside within the 4 or 5 minutes of  a devastating attack. If left to outside intervention, we will be sending our police in usually after the gunman is dead (wouldn’t want to rush into these things, a cop might get hurt in their protective armor) and cleaning up the death and destruction of the children we refuse to protect during school hours. Look at the arguments of ‘Gayle Fallon, president of the Houston Federation of teachers’ and her pitiful excuses.

Tx. Teachers To Carry Guns   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuTF9DkQ5Rw

We should put 2 armed cops in every elementary school, one at the entrance and one roaming.  And make it well known.  Would likely have prevented Sandy Hook, or at least limited the carnage.

High schools are tougher to protect because of their more open nature, but a visible police presence would have an effect.

Makes helluva lot more sense than a Biden commission on limiting gun access which will do nothing to defend the undefended.

The problem I see with the cops in elementary schools is that just because they are there, doesn't mean they will make things safer. Just recently I believe, two police officers were shot and killed while armed.

I don't see this issue with guns and violence as a simple, easy to fix issue. It's messy, full of various people pushing various agendas, and in the end we lose sight of the goal - safety. I would argue that what needs to be done entails multiple approaches, multiple looks. First, lets examine - not saying change - just examine our current gun laws. Are they working? What can we do to make sure they stay strong, but respectful of rights? Second, what are we as a nation telling our kids? We live in a society where some parents are neglectful, ignorant, etc. and that creates a less than stellar environment for the children. This is a rather dicey one because ultimately each child's parent is, well, the parent and they are the ones in control of how their children are raised. Still, it can't be denied that in some cases the people who get involved in gun violence come from a home environment that is - regardless of the parental genders - less than decent. Third, you have the various outside influences, like violent movies, games, etc. The list goes on.

Unless we can honestly address these...I fear we're going to repeat this over and over.

 

 

I don't like the Idea of these cleanups as a necessity because you don’t like guns? I don’t know of any sane person who could even point a gun at a child let alone use it on them. It doesn’t matter why he went there, it doesn’t matter how he was raised or what he took with him … he was a complete madman and there is no protection from that without a first responder getting there in less than 1 minute.

Yea right, a requirement to get a CWP or to own a gun is to come from “less than decent home” because decent people don’t have guns. I think your priorities are screwed up if gun control (over the law abiding only) takes precedence over the prevention of these cleanups. And if you wanted to be honest, I think the news will confirm that we lose armed police officers every day so your point was??? I think most would have sacrificed themselves (I know I would) to save just one child let alone 20 of them. Geese, it seems like our priorities are different concerning other people’s children is all.