A bunch of useless crap
Published on March 26, 2007 By MasonM In Misc
I have the TV on in my hotel room and naturally it's on the sci-fi channel. An episode of Enterprise is on. A Klingon is speaking and he says "What is the honor of defeating a weaker opponent?"

That's a pretty deep question. I've been in many fights in my life. Some of the guys I have fought were bigger and stronger than myself, and some weren't. I've won every fight I've ever fought as far as I can recall. The only ones that actually matter to me are the ones against the guys who were bigger and/or stronger than myself.

Ok, I'll admit that I don't fight "fair". I fight to win. I always have. I recall a bar fight in Southern Texas where the guy, a pretty damn big Mexican, took exception to my friendly banter with the barmaid. He was a huge monster. I kicked him in his right knee hard enough to do damage and he went down like a hooker with twenty bucks. He tried to get up but I had done enough damage that he was done for a while.

I'm not a huge guy by any means, but I'm not small either, but it doesn't matter. It's skill and experience that matter. The worst asswhipping I ever took was from a guy who weighed at least 50 lbs less than myself. Damn that boy was fast. I did wind up knocking him on his ass. I had no choice but to buy him a beer and admit he was damn good.

These days I'm far more passive and try to avoid fights when possible, but sometimes you just don't have a choice. The chiropractor I'm seeing commented on my upper muscle structure and said I was built like a boxer. I just told him it's genetics and I'm not a fighter.

Ok, it's not good to lie to your doctor, but in that case it's kinda trued these days.

Besides, I heal a lot slower from fights these days. Either way, pounding an enemy that is much smaller than yourself is hardly a victory. I get much more satisfaction out of pounding a guy much larger.

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on Mar 26, 2007
I love Klingon philosophy.  Doesn't mean I'd always honor it (I'm probably more in line with Ferengi's and their many laws of profit ), but I do enjoy their (Klingon's) philosophy.
on Mar 26, 2007

I love Klingon philosophy.  Doesn't mean I'd always honor it (I'm probably more in line with Ferengi's and their many laws of profit ), but I do enjoy their (Klingon's) philosophy.


As a geek I know what you mean. But I think I am closer to Klingon ideals than Ferengi.
on Mar 26, 2007
I believe the honor would be available if that weaker opponent was about to pound an even weaker one. There is also no honor in standing by and watching. This mainly applies to international politics these days.
on Mar 26, 2007
What is the honor of defeating a weaker opponent?"


If you beat them at all, doesn't that automatically make them the weaker opponent, no matter how big they are?
on Mar 26, 2007

I believe the honor would be available if that weaker opponent was about to pound an even weaker one. There is also no honor in standing by and watching. This mainly applies to international politics these days.


Ah but it's not about intervention but direct confrontation.
on Mar 26, 2007

What is the honor of defeating a weaker opponent?"




If you beat them at all, doesn't that automatically make them the weaker opponent, no matter how big they are?



Not necessarily. Picture two 200 pound men in a ring. Each have equal strength. They fight it out but one is slightly more experienced and/or intelligent than the other.

That's what I'm getting at.
on Mar 26, 2007
I believe the honor comes in defeating the opponent that challenges you...I think you feel more satisfaction if that opponent was tough. I suppose it's like hunting...swatting a fly or shooting a bear? Which gives you the greater thrill?

~Zoo
on Mar 26, 2007

I believe the honor comes in defeating the opponent that challenges you


I agree.

Shooting a bear would be easy. Killing it with a stick or a knife would be something to brag about. Believe it or not people used to do that.
on Mar 26, 2007
A Klingon is speaking and he says "What is the honor of defeating a weaker opponent?"


I've always heard never fight an old man because if you win there's no glory and if you loose you'll never live it down. But anyway...if you like to fight, come hang out with me a work sometimes, you'll get your chance! of course fighting dirty is out, at least on my side of the bars, 'cause if you fight dirty or go to far they'll be callin' their lawyer and/or filing on you. So you learn to use your verbal skills and avoid confrontations as far as possible.

I get much more satisfaction out of pounding a guy much larger


er...you might wanna re-phrase that...   
on Mar 26, 2007

A Klingon is speaking and he says "What is the honor of defeating a weaker opponent?"


I've always heard never fight an old man because if you win there's no glory and if you loose you'll never live it down. But anyway...if you like to fight, come hang out with me a work sometimes, you'll get your chance! of course fighting dirty is out, at least on my side of the bars, 'cause if you fight dirty or go to far they'll be callin' their lawyer and/or filing on you. So you learn to use your verbal skills and avoid confrontations as far as possible.

I get much more satisfaction out of pounding a guy much larger


er...you might wanna re-phrase that...   


Actually I don't like to fight, it just sometimes happens. Verbally avoiding a fight is a much better skill and I'm pretty good at that one too. Sadly it doesn't always work.
on Mar 26, 2007
The old saying I've always heard was don't fight an ugly man because he has nothing to lose.
on Mar 26, 2007
er...you might wanna re-phrase that...


Yeah, that could be misconstrued.
on Mar 26, 2007
Sadly it doesn't always work.


tell me about it. or better yet tell my capped bottom tooth 'cause it's the one got kicked and cracked one time, lol. You wanna know the absolutly WORST fight I was ever in? it was with a 95 lbs. fifty year old woman that was abso-freakin'-lutly wasted blind, but she DID know how to fight! She had been to prison many times and had all the down and dirty skills honed to a T. And those fingernails! Like razors! Lemme tell ya I'll do my damndest to avoid that again!
on Mar 27, 2007
I too like Klingon philosophy. And there is soemthing about this particular quote we caould all learn from I think.

I'm not a fighter, never have been. I knew early on in my life I wanted to be a musician, but you can't be a musician worth shit if you're fingers aren't limber. Thankfully, I am also very good with diplomacy. I've talked myself out of numerous situations where I thought the only way out I had would be to fight.
on Mar 27, 2007
I like Klingon as well - but dont find myself in situations that anyone wants to beat the crap out of me.  Or vice versa.  Guess I will just be a lover and not a fighter.
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