A bunch of useless crap
Published on February 9, 2007 By MasonM In Misc
My thanks to Baker for setting me onto this topic. His comment on one of my threads inspired this one.

Baker: "I know men that I grew up around that right now if their wives left or died would literally not know how to cook their own supper, sew on a button, or even wash their clothes in their own washer and dryer. To me, THAT is a lot more, well, candy assed. There's always been something effeminate about a grown man-child that needs his wife to be his momma, too, lol."

These days most television shows depict the father, and males in general, as useless, stupid, bumbling fools who couldn't tie their own shoes without a woman's help. Sadly, many men these days aren't too far off from that. Many modern men are lost in the kitchen and couldn't feed themselves without the aid of restaurants. Lose a button off their shirt? Buy a new shirt.

Is this what a man is supposed to be?

150 years ago men were highly adept at taking care of themselves. If one were to survive he needed to know a wide range of skills from sewing to cooking to leather working to building his own house. They didn't need someone else to do things for them and they took pride in their self-sufficiency. A man who couldn't do for himself was considered weak and pathetic in the eyes of "real men".

These days many so-called real men have almost no skills at all outside of their occupation. Simple sewing, cooking, home maintenance, and the like are beyond their ability. That's pretty damn sad. I personally take a lot of pride in the fact that I can take care of myself and if there is a skill I lack I take the time and trouble to learn it. Woman's work? There's no such thing. If I need to do something I do it or learn how to do it, and then take pride in the fact that I can do it.

That's a real man. Self-sufficient, skilled, willing to learn new skills, and self-assured enough to proudly display his abilities regardless of whether or not those useless types consider it "woman's work" or not. A real man is comfortable with himself and has an inner strength that surpasses the derision of the useless types (or as Baker put it, candy asses).

A wimp, candy ass, or whatever you wish to call him, lives in fear of what the other wimps will think and say about him while the real man will look them right in the eye without fear and be proud that he is a notch above these useless wimps.

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on Feb 09, 2007
I think these "helpless males" are becoming more and more uncommon. I'm teaching my boys to be self-sufficient. There will come a day when they will be on their own and need to know how to take care of themselves. I think men of a previous generation definately have that expect to be served macho attitude. I really think the modern man has moved beyond that.
on Feb 09, 2007
I really think the modern man has moved beyond that.


Maybe, but I surely don't see it. Perhaps the upcoming generation will, but I think for the most part the current one is pretty helpless.
on Feb 09, 2007
I think the problem is that the 'noisey wheel gets the grease' thing...... Those who bitch therefore get more publicity... or maybe it just seems that way to me.. a lot of new media targets seem to be the 'whiners' of socieity..

I can sew... I was taught when I was a kid, and again taught when I joined the Navy.. You don't think of it as such a demanding and serious skill until you are actually doing it. Then you learn just how much that one skill can help you, and also how much money!!

Though this is also coming from a guy who's wife is nice enough to do the uniform work for me instead of having me do it.... maybe because she knows she can do it SOO much faster than me... LoL

on Feb 09, 2007

Do I like cooking? Hell no!

Do I like sewing?  Hell no!

Do I like washing?  Hell no!

But my mother and grandmother taught me how to do all!  So yea I can.  But being a man, it is very Loooooowww on my totem pole!

Microwave here I come!

on Feb 09, 2007
But being a man, it is very Loooooowww on my totem pole!


Ah but at least ya know how. There's the difference eh? (Damn I'm channeling a Canadian)
on Feb 09, 2007
I probably cook, no I DO cook, more than my wife. And I do at least as much laundry, house cleaning etc.

In high school I played football, took shop, had ag class, and took home econonomics mainly because that's were the girls were.

Real man? yes, I believe I am. And I got the jewelry to prove it!   
on Feb 09, 2007
And I got the jewelry to prove it!


on Feb 09, 2007
"50 years ago men were highly adept at taking care of themselves. If one were to survive he needed to know a wide range of skills from sewing to cooking to leather working to building his own house. They didn't need someone else to do things for them and they took pride in their self-sufficiency. A man who couldn't do for himself was considered weak and pathetic in the eyes of "real men".


I've had a couple of hobby interests all my life. One is the "Mountain Man" phenomenon of the 17 and 1800's. The other is whaling. To me there is nothing more mind blowing than setting out with nothing but what you can carry toward a place where only one among many ever come back.

I try to imagine what it was like to step onto a ship in the early 1800's, and know that you wouldn't be coming home for a year or more. The kind of skill that required, out on the friggin ocean, putting in only rarely? The same for mountain men who had what they carried on their back or on their mule/horse.

I have nothing but esteem for that kind of self-sufficiency. It hurts me to the core to see the kind of creatures we've become.
on Feb 09, 2007
I have nothing but esteem for that kind of self-sufficiency. It hurts me to the core to see the kind of creatures we've become.


Yeah, I sometimes think we have it too easy for our own good.
on Feb 09, 2007
Ah but at least ya know how. There's the difference eh? (Damn I'm channeling a Canadian)


Earth to Mason!
on Feb 09, 2007
To me there is nothing more mind blowing than setting out with nothing but what you can carry


I used to do that when i was younger. You know, hike in for a week in the boonies on the river. I always came out of it haggard and hungry but joyfully refilled. Need to do that again sometimes
on Feb 09, 2007
Good article Mason.

My definition of a real man involves being a good provider for his family. I do realize people lose jobs so I don't mean a man can never be out of work....but willing to do WHATEVER it takes to mind his family.

I don't really care if my husband helps with the house, cooking, or laundry. Those fall under my job description, but yes, he can do them and well.

Real men aren't wimps. The soft touchy feely guy women insisted on in the 80's makes me barf.

If a man wants to knit, sew, dance, that's cool by me. Those activities don't define his character but they can certainly enhance it.

on Feb 09, 2007
...and now, for something completely different:

on Feb 09, 2007
..and now, for someting completely different:

I've always liked that bit.

By the way, what the hell is the code to embed one of those videos in a post? I've tried several variations of the embed tag and none of them seem to work here.
on Feb 09, 2007
its the embed text box, right on the youtube page for the video, just below identifying info, tags and URL.
Just copy and paste.
--actually, it didn't work on reply, only when I did it under EDIT after the fact.
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